tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post3347048358020304796..comments2024-01-16T08:40:53.682+00:00Comments on <a href="http://www.openeurope.org.uk">Open Europe</a>: The 2014-2020 EU budget: The deal that never was?OEhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00556463374230498875noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-16121724371239444922013-06-21T19:16:24.751+01:002013-06-21T19:16:24.751+01:00Spin, rhetoric, smoke and mirrors, or perhaps the ...Spin, rhetoric, smoke and mirrors, or perhaps the dying gasps of the doomed euro and the wholly corrupt and fraudulent EU.<br /><br />Meanwhile we have Cameron et al trying to convince us that he his going to give us a meaningless referendum and wee georgie continuing to drive us ever further into debt as we fund the rapacious demands of the EU Ponzi scheme and via the back door of the IMF those in the Eurozone who have been left destitute because of EU policies!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-23730357843436531632013-06-21T14:45:54.828+01:002013-06-21T14:45:54.828+01:00So much for Cameron's boasts and rhetoric. No ...So much for Cameron's boasts and rhetoric. No surprises though given the endemic corruption fraud, wast and extravagance, which has brought the eurozone to it's knees, whilst the self serving unelected commissar and bureaucrats continue to feed voraciously from the trough of public money!<br /><br />€120 billion lost to corruption in EU each year<br />An estimated €120 billion is lost to corruption each year throughout the 27 member states, the EU commissioner for home affairs Cecilia Malmstrom has said. <br /><br />http://euobserver.com/justice/119300<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-20607054310923621682013-06-20T19:46:05.185+01:002013-06-20T19:46:05.185+01:00As usual nothing is agreed or sorted out. They wil...As usual nothing is agreed or sorted out. They will just fudge it and come back to it in 2016.<br /><br />This gives us EU citizens NO CONFIDENCE that things will ever change. As the Eurozone economies get worse this type of fudge will just increase, perhaps being applied to each and every 'difficult' decision.<br /><br />This is simpy not acceptable. We need to exit. <br /><br />SCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-84574856105001596232013-06-20T16:48:18.930+01:002013-06-20T16:48:18.930+01:00Also an issue on which Cameron is much too quiet. ...Also an issue on which Cameron is much too quiet. <br />He however takes the necessity of EU membership as the present focuss point re the EU. Which looks simply wrong.<br /><br />The referendum is first in 4 years time (World wars have been started and lost in that time). Priority now should be get the basic facts over to the general voter and get them and especially the backbench quiet. A lot of the public simply misses completely the overview.<br /><br />The Conservatives however come up with the EU necessity thing.<br />First of all that as a point that will first be relevant close for the referendum. While the other points needed much earlier attention. We have had a backbench show with the referendum and a poll show for what the people really want. But looked completely unorganised and were unnecessary imho.<br /><br />However what needed immediate attention is that 'Dave' is filling to fight for it. Which could be an essential point re his credibility in this issue (which is pretty low). Budget is such an opportunity. Worst case he sort of loses if the EP doesnot cooperate. However imho that looks to be more than balanced by the fact that he has been able to show that he is going for it and the PR blackeye for the EP.<br /><br />If you messed the relation with big parts of your voters up like Dave did and are 10% behind the worst PM candidate since Adolf bloody Hitler you will have to take risks to try to set things straight. Plus have to avoid making new mistakes.<br />Not do risky stuff when not absolutely necessary. No gay marriage and not start with EU membership necessities. Things might work, but things might also end up as the next publicity blooper.<br /><br />Also towards the business sector. It has to be made clear that the fall back position is a freetrade zone. Not disappearing from the face of the earth. Riknoreply@blogger.com