tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post5568726304956062922..comments2024-01-16T08:40:53.682+00:00Comments on <a href="http://www.openeurope.org.uk">Open Europe</a>: "Something is rotten in Europe" - European elections reaction round-upOEhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00556463374230498875noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-43688116723906573272014-05-29T11:57:02.454+01:002014-05-29T11:57:02.454+01:00@Freedomlover
The problem with a product the mothe...@Freedomlover<br />The problem with a product the mothers of the present consumers already used is that it takes a long time till a majority realises things are pretty odd.<br />And often even longer for the producers thereof to realise that he should change his product or end up in the bustbin.<br /><br />That is basically the situation here.<br />Eurosceptics like yourself still donot have sufficient power to make change happen.<br />Traditional parties have seen the massive movement, but basically are still not acting. Reacting on an ad hoc basis like Cameron at best.<br />Riknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-23481820696022321582014-05-29T08:45:15.876+01:002014-05-29T08:45:15.876+01:00There is a large world where you can trade outside...There is a large world where you can trade outside of the eussr, it's time our politicians realised that and left this small trading bloc and went for the much larger one outside of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-80501619190262054362014-05-29T00:00:57.652+01:002014-05-29T00:00:57.652+01:00The Commissars and their supporters are fanatics. ...The Commissars and their supporters are fanatics. They will not change their views or their programme of action unless they are stopped by national governments or ultimately, the people they are supposed to serve. They do not have a reverse gear on their EU 'ever closer union' gravy train.<br /><br />There is still plenty of evidence of the same attitude in the UK notwithstanding recent events. Some UK politicians have been quoted as saying "we just need to explain our policies better and then the electorate will understand (the dumb plebs, - OK that was me) just how right we are and flock back to vote for us when they have had their protest".<br /><br />Well no. Us plebs are not so dumb as you think oh mighty ones. We are perfectly capable of assessing our circumstances and what is best for our country and for our children's future and wait for it, maybe, just maybe we are more on the right lines than you are? How's that for some radical new 'blue sky' thinking? Try it out for size guys and see if you can make that great "OMG I could be wrong" leap but sadly, I suspect it is beyond you. As one very sensible and holy person once said: there are none so blind as those who will not see.<br /><br />Average Englishmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-83320805366130381752014-05-28T17:21:57.681+01:002014-05-28T17:21:57.681+01:00The assumption that "more Europe" is goo...The assumption that "more Europe" is good has been shown to be completely false. What evidence is needed, other than unsustainable debt, disastrous unemployment, a lethal business climate, high taxes, and now welfare-seeking immigrants?<br /><br />There is nothing that the EU can offer than adopting unilateral free trade cannot accomplish with zero cost. Let the people of Europe trade and prosper, and keep government out of the way.Patrick Barronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-35196225201364615902014-05-28T16:11:10.089+01:002014-05-28T16:11:10.089+01:00In the early 1990's Bernard Connolly, then a v...In the early 1990's Bernard Connolly, then a very senior official involved in euro preparations, wrote a devastating book "The Rotten Heart of Europe" - and (naturally) was fired by the EU for his pains.An updated version was issued a few months ago and I thoroughly recommend it to anyone - including Open Europe members - who is still not fully aware of the nature of the EU <br />beast - and it's intentions<br /><br />http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rotten-Heart-Europe-Bernard-Connolly/dp/0571301746<br /><br />(It is not clear which version is offered)Idris Francisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-2622515589285418962014-05-28T13:33:56.783+01:002014-05-28T13:33:56.783+01:00Rik, the elites, the political & metropolitan ...Rik, the elites, the political & metropolitan establishment, the chatterati, whatever you like to call them, have been recognised in this recent EP election for what they are. Not democrats at all. Instead self-serving know-alls who's only concern for the mass of ordinary people like you & me is that we vote for their approved mainstream political parties (of both the left & the right), & then leave them to be free for 4 or 5 years to enjoy all the perks of power, including making laws that favour them & their associates - plus generous tax-free expenses. <br /><br />That's not democracy, that's a post-democratic oligarchy. But that's what the elite favour, & why they resent the intrusion of upstarts that this recent EP election has revealed. It's no wonder Rousseau said years ago of the British that "they are only free once every 5 years!" This EP election has revealed that others around Europe have also noticed that they are being similarly deceived!Freedom Lovernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-68795877363566292242014-05-28T01:32:23.720+01:002014-05-28T01:32:23.720+01:00They clearly still havenot got a clue what is happ...They clearly still havenot got a clue what is happening and/or are simply unable/incompetent to change.<br />Which is basically for reform very good news. The rot at national level will continue. And from national level the pressure should come for reform.<br /><br />As an outsider the complete lack of quality people both at political level as well as with the media is simply appaling I have to say.<br /><br />Just one it is not the revolt against the elites. It is the elites having got completely disconnected from their electorates. Riknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-90775867309047356122014-05-27T18:47:15.415+01:002014-05-27T18:47:15.415+01:00Comment from Latvia Written by Kim Kosmachev, the ...Comment from Latvia Written by Kim Kosmachev, the editor of the most popular (in Latvia and Baltics) news site DELFI . In russian, but seems interesting https://www.facebook.com/kim.kosmachev/posts/666755706730036Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02857211965644125045noreply@blogger.com