tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post5974545840993224152..comments2024-01-16T08:40:53.682+00:00Comments on <a href="http://www.openeurope.org.uk">Open Europe</a>: Rebels in need of a cause?OEhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00556463374230498875noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-75182139231041767732011-11-08T00:23:38.002+00:002011-11-08T00:23:38.002+00:00Barbara Miller is spot on; since we moved from the...Barbara Miller is spot on; since we moved from the EEC (then the EC and eventually into the EU), there has been no authorisation from the UK electorate for the attempts by successive governments to give away UK sovereignty. No UK government will risk a referendum on continued membership of the EU because they know the answer they will get. So, a line of UK governments has defied the known will of the British people. Any attempt at renegotiation will be frustrated at every turn so we must extricate ourselves and rejoin the rest of the world. Not too difficult for us as the world's first global nation.<br />Peripetetic scribe should have more faith in the British people. Remember all those dire predictions that the UK would crash if we didn't join the Euro? Don't hear much talk of that recently. Yes, the EU might try to make life difficult for a newly independent UK but, with friends like that...! In any event we have a trade imbalance with the EU and I really don't see them refusing to sell us their German VWs or their Spanish holidays, or their French wine etc.<br />The EU is the world's failing economic bloc and the sooner we get out, reform ourselves into a sharp economomy which is quick on its feet to respond to changing world conditions, the better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-6548932458934545462011-11-06T13:33:57.832+00:002011-11-06T13:33:57.832+00:00Dubious - can you imagine the tariffs and other ob...Dubious - can you imagine the tariffs and other obstacles that could/would be placed in our path? Having once been "in" and then "out" I have serious doubts about the quantity of bilateral trade that would occur if UK does as you suggest. And the number of jobs that could be lost? Believe me, there would be many zero's at the end of the number. Sorry but I think this could cause more problems than it's worth.Peripatetic Scribehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16947563967578134704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-83359860732312754362011-11-06T11:35:21.177+00:002011-11-06T11:35:21.177+00:00We should just leave the EU. end of story.Switzerl...We should just leave the EU. end of story.Switzerland is OK without it & all the EU states will still want to trade with us & vice versa. That would return control to us for our Govt to govern & restore common sense on Health & Safety, Justice, Immigration & Employment laws.<br />We would no longer pay £billions into the EU budget to subsidise the CAP & use it for the benefit of GB.<br /><br />Dubiousdubiousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-91622272634991032292011-11-05T11:37:16.722+00:002011-11-05T11:37:16.722+00:00I want to know who makes these new 'laws' ...I want to know who makes these new 'laws' that 'they' keep bombarding us with! as the original 'laws' were illegal in the first place.<br /><br />The only vote the people of Britain had was an option to join the EEC for trading not to give control of our country to a foreign power; this takeover has caused untold hardship not only to our country but all member countries except France and Germany!! How can an organization that makes things worse for the indigenous population of member countires be good for anyone except the traitors selling us all out. <br /><br />A straight in or out vote is what we need not an attempt to take back a few paltry powers from our captures.Barbara Millernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-17701968829053561102011-11-05T10:14:04.098+00:002011-11-05T10:14:04.098+00:00How stupid does Cameron think we are?
As has been ...How stupid does Cameron think we are?<br />As has been already said, there is no possibility of repatriation of powers as it is ILLEGAL to repeal Euro-law( i think) according to the Euro legislation.<br />The only possible way of doing so would be to repeal the various acts and re-negotiate from a position of strength - you want our cash then talk etc; Not please can we have our cash back ...<br /><br />Lastly the Euro-zone has ALWAYS aimed to go further and further down the federal route - why would they change for us?<br /><br />Ed SladeEd Sladenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-5283573897293852432011-11-04T19:10:17.380+00:002011-11-04T19:10:17.380+00:00Re Ian Harris comment - I think it is not a case o...Re Ian Harris comment - I think it is not a case of negotiating "membership" but of negotiating in those areas where certain powers can be repatriated from Brussels. It will be a long process (and difficult at times) - hence the need for a cohesive strategic approach.Peripatetic Scribehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16947563967578134704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-50385020658095997872011-11-04T18:34:06.992+00:002011-11-04T18:34:06.992+00:00Anonymous - building on your comments I would say ...Anonymous - building on your comments I would say that the current government runs the risk of "painting themselves into a corner" - once on the topic you mention (but it is early days and hopefully the government will develop a credible strategy) and secondly (and more profoundly) in giving additional funding to the IMF. Unless this additional finance is "ring-fenced" it could go anywhere!<br />And that's a frightening loss of control.Peripatetic Scribehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16947563967578134704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-81835591277634218362011-11-04T18:02:09.567+00:002011-11-04T18:02:09.567+00:00There seems to be agreat deal of 'should' ...There seems to be agreat deal of 'should' 'might' and 'want' concerning repatriation of control and of powers by the government.<br />There is very little 'will' 'can' or 'have'!<br />I am afraid Mr Cameron and his team are whistling in the wind. the transfer of power is a one way street and we have been sold down the river by this and past governments..<br />Oh how I would love to be proved wrong but I am not holding my breath!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-75232796081243167022011-11-04T17:31:42.881+00:002011-11-04T17:31:42.881+00:00If David Cameron says he can renegotiate our membe...If David Cameron says he can renegotiate our membership of the EU he is either lying or delusional. Why should the other 26 members allow the UK an opt-out from all the burdensome regulations which the EU is imposing on them? In the end, we will either give in - the Foreign Office's default position as it keeps their empire constantly enlarging - or we will have to leave.Ian Harrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-34249502459426698432011-10-26T12:14:50.546+01:002011-10-26T12:14:50.546+01:00"If last night’s vote increases the sense of ..."If last night’s vote increases the sense of urgency in the need to come up with such a properly thought-out strategic plan then it will have served some good." This is perhaps THE most important aspect of the adventure. Without a credible, concrete strategy which can gain widespread support country-wide, it will be another Conservative footnote. It is a great opportunity to re-fashion the model, not in terms of "ours is the best" view but a cohesive approach to an age-old problem allowing each country to motor at its own speed without over-reliance on the others.Peripatetic Scribehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16947563967578134704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-31495242730725323282011-10-25T19:11:39.636+01:002011-10-25T19:11:39.636+01:00For heaven's sake, when will OE wake up to the...For heaven's sake, when will OE wake up to the real world? Most of the so-called rebels believe in renegotiation of powers and subsequent return - yet obviously have no idea what 'acquis communitaire' means.<br /><br />If this debate had been purely in or out the number of rebels would probably have been equal to the signatories on BOO.<br /><br />Methinks that OE are but another mouthpiece for the Conservative Party!WitteringsfromWitneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16026875251366365154noreply@blogger.com