tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post6404824170617127681..comments2024-01-16T08:40:53.682+00:00Comments on <a href="http://www.openeurope.org.uk">Open Europe</a>: House of Lords isn't getting with the programmeOEhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00556463374230498875noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-81687244687602029202011-06-27T12:27:33.749+01:002011-06-27T12:27:33.749+01:00In the interst of honesty and fairness, any person...In the interst of honesty and fairness, any person who has an interest in the EU should not have any say on any government policy on the EUAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-39954185978055187682011-06-23T13:57:01.150+01:002011-06-23T13:57:01.150+01:00Unfortunately the people running this country , in...Unfortunately the people running this country , in both houses, are only interested in their own ends thinking only of what they can make for themselves ! Labour introduced postal voting because the number of people voting was dropping at each election . Did it not occur to them that people were no longer voting because the electorate had lost all confidence in politicians full stop . Self interest is all politicians care about , and the will of the people is just treated in total contempt. I can see no hope of this changing .terry snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-40248350010081596152011-06-22T23:18:56.886+01:002011-06-22T23:18:56.886+01:00It was enough to read the Daily Telegraph article ...It was enough to read the Daily Telegraph article about how much the Lords are costing us. They get a fixed amount of £300 just for turning up, plus travel expenses. This is outrageous. Like MPs, they are a bunch of crooks. The number of Peers should be radically reduced and their fixed payments drastically reduced and a Daily Telegraph-type investigation to reveal the amount of questionable claims.<br /><br />As to the Lords vote on the Bill proposing referendums, I am absolutely flabbergasted. I have now lost all confideance in the Upper Chamber!<br /><br />Gerry BarlowGerald Barlownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-37722904166764283082011-06-22T20:52:49.013+01:002011-06-22T20:52:49.013+01:00Elected (the Commons) or not (the Lords) none of t...Elected (the Commons) or not (the Lords) none of them care about democracy. If they did, they would have asked us first before signing away our sovereignty. Sadly, as a previous poster noted, Joe public doesn't understand or, even worse, do not care what is going on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-88108604873936249192011-06-22T17:49:11.880+01:002011-06-22T17:49:11.880+01:00For gods sake,just let us have a vote and get the ...For gods sake,just let us have a vote and get the hell out of europe!BAZZnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-60383696242806404752011-06-22T14:13:54.226+01:002011-06-22T14:13:54.226+01:00When The Palace of Westminster is converted into t...When The Palace of Westminster is converted into the London Museum of Lying (covering both the telling of untruths and reposing, as if in bed) perhaps 'second chamber' can just be filled with concrete to the roof with the "Lords Spiritual and Temporal" firmly embedded within it.EUbrainwashinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04613060511249058045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-87174787622078831182011-06-21T19:40:16.881+01:002011-06-21T19:40:16.881+01:00I would like to see Lord Alan Sugar stand up and s...I would like to see Lord Alan Sugar stand up and say "ang on tosh this is my bloody money being wasted, you're fired"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-77980515424730883242011-06-21T12:06:44.425+01:002011-06-21T12:06:44.425+01:00I was waching the Lords debate the EU Bill. Lord S...I was waching the Lords debate the EU Bill. Lord Stoddart of Swindon said this, " The British people have been let down by this and previous Governments and it is time for the people to have a referendum on the EU" and " it is not Government money the Government spends, it is the peoples money and they should have a say on how it is spent" and said "80% of the people are against the EU and it it high time they had the vote". One Lord not affraid to say what the public are saying. But he is the only one!Tony Barkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06097689532083246130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-42826552259269957292011-06-20T18:12:24.434+01:002011-06-20T18:12:24.434+01:00Who is this "Lord Hannay" that believes ...Who is this "Lord Hannay" that believes HE is entitled to have a vote but the British People are not? Who gave him the power to deny us our Rights? It seems to me that Lord Hannay is the exactly the sort of person who shows why we should have a House of Lords made up entirely of Herititaries - they put the Kingdom before anything else. As for all the Politicos - there are plenty of lamp-posts in London needing an adornment!Pablo the Scotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-65197735546649927072011-06-20T16:04:22.399+01:002011-06-20T16:04:22.399+01:00Doing a Theron in the House of Lords. Serving two ...Doing a Theron in the House of Lords. Serving two masters. They take a pension from Europe and do not reveal it in Members Interest Register and vote against any reforms in European issues. How transparent is that and how do they get away with not revealing their pensions.<br /><br />(Doing a Theron: Theron is a member of the Spartan Senate in the movie 300. Theron is a manipulative man who is being bribed by the Persians to convince Sparta to surrender ...)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-84496372119480325242011-06-20T12:18:26.602+01:002011-06-20T12:18:26.602+01:00it is time that the people had a say within our ow...it is time that the people had a say within our own government on europe. If that means that we have to get rid of the "has beens" then so be it. I thought I was voting for a STRONG government not one that listens to idiots and then rolls over.kbanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-13942936776690751622011-06-19T19:14:50.858+01:002011-06-19T19:14:50.858+01:00Recxent so called governments have been talking ab...Recxent so called governments have been talking about changing the house of Lords, the best change they can make is to abolish it and get rid of all the hangerons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-60909772957938120932011-06-19T11:06:49.948+01:002011-06-19T11:06:49.948+01:00These lads and so called "lords" and old...These lads and so called "lords" and old codgers are out of touch like the EU itself which is now falling apart and likely to bring us down with it too. Are they mad or what. Probably. <br /><br />“I think that noble (haha)Lords who say that the voice of the people must be heard should think a bit about this,” said Lord Hannay of Chiswick. Better he think about how he got in his vaulted position first - TO SERVE THE PEOPLE. What a cheek. What a slur on magnificent Chiswick he is, not that he knows where it is ha.....Yammersboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07736560318909527659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-81914024764710686752011-06-18T19:53:09.901+01:002011-06-18T19:53:09.901+01:00Many years ago, when I lived in London, I campaign...Many years ago, when I lived in London, I campaigned for the Referendum Party set up by Sir James Goldsmith, now deceased. As I went round and spoke to people on the doorstep, I was completely bewildered by the naivity of the people on the issue of the EU. <br /><br />When I attended the Referendum conference at Brighton with 6,000 people in attendance, Sir James warned us "not to sleepwalk into Europe". There were many speakers from European countries saying the same thing. <br />The next day, having been one of those interviewed by the press, i bought every Sunday paper available to see the write up of the conference. NOTHING. I think there was half a page on Jemima's dress ( Sir James' daughter) by the Daily Mail.<br />Too late to negotiate. Our politicians are dumbed down or bought off. GIVE THE BRITISH PEOPLE A REFERENDUM - IN OR OUT?<br /><br /> Simples!Phil Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14165235207685474997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-90040153567938141922011-06-18T15:50:05.089+01:002011-06-18T15:50:05.089+01:00These lords are mostly placemen who are only inter...These lords are mostly placemen who are only interested in lining their own pockets.We the people should have the right to have a referendum the lords are not elected by the people.<br />Cameron talks a lot but never does anything I dont think he's a tory he's a european still a pr man not living in the real world still in pr fantasy worldAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-34324379370172313482011-06-18T13:39:20.479+01:002011-06-18T13:39:20.479+01:00So here we see it...
“I think that noble Lords wh...So here we see it...<br /> “I think that noble Lords who say that the voice of the people must be heard should think a bit about this,” said Lord Hannay of Chiswick.<br /><br />Who does this buffoon think he is?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-20110359365453684502011-06-18T12:45:29.565+01:002011-06-18T12:45:29.565+01:00It's high time the British public rebelled aga...It's high time the British public rebelled against the fools who are running our country for their own gain. The house of lords should be abolished, where is Guy Fawkes when you need him?<br />The Government needs an influx of the common man, people who know what it's like to raise a family on a pittance, just about every aspect of our lives is taxed so Government can waste and give away our money without the blink of an eye. There seems to be no common sense whatsoever, What sort of fool allows our country to be dictated to by the EU monster, imposing ridiculous laws upon us, what sort of fool allows the EU court of human rights to trample all over our legal system and ensure criminals are treated better than their victims.<br />If government isn't stopped soon Britain will cease to exist as a country and we will be merged with perhaps France because it will be easier for the power crazed Europhiles to govern the people who used to be known as the British.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-46765810620012968522011-06-18T12:07:13.389+01:002011-06-18T12:07:13.389+01:00These dodering old bufoons still don't underst...These dodering old bufoons still don't understand the people of Great Britain. What gives unelected lost souls the right to deny the right of the people to choose their destiny. If it means getting rid of the Lords first then so be it. Most of them have other agendas other than loyalty to tihs country, E.U. Drip by drip the powers of the people and country are sold away. My grandchildrens children will grow up in a non U.K.state why? SOLD to the lowest bidder!Any vote that changes the direction of this country should first go to the people, it is after all their "human right", as far as I am aware the Bill or Rights has not changed nor should it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-62857765741279785362011-06-18T12:06:47.728+01:002011-06-18T12:06:47.728+01:00Now is the time for all of to sign The People'...Now is the time for all of to sign The People's Pledge. To make your voice heard to these moronic "lords" and gutless MPs, go to<br />http://www.peoplespledge.org/.<br /><br />NOW !!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-70566180235372352842011-06-18T12:02:22.046+01:002011-06-18T12:02:22.046+01:00Where is the new GUY FAWKESWhere is the new GUY FAWKESAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-65975073813546502462011-06-18T10:53:30.578+01:002011-06-18T10:53:30.578+01:00Noble Lords? I, like many other voters, HAVE tho...Noble Lords? I, like many other voters, HAVE thought long and hard about withdrawal from the EU. Why does Lord Hannay of Chiswick think that we are not entitled to a referendum on this matter, which is absolutely vital to the future of this county? His views demonstrate the need for reform of the House of Lords. The message is clear - the majority of the populace want the sovereignity of this country to be returned - let us have our referendum!Rhodiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-88073505951869976902011-06-18T10:39:00.061+01:002011-06-18T10:39:00.061+01:00Appalling, who do those anti-democratic swine thin...Appalling, who do those anti-democratic swine think they are? Major change clearly isn't going to happen unless the people of Britain assert themselves very strongly and demand that the politicians submit to our will! Or else!<br /><br />John TarbyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-7136302893140048782011-06-18T10:28:31.812+01:002011-06-18T10:28:31.812+01:00This outrageous vote has changed my mind about ret...This outrageous vote has changed my mind about retaining an unelected House of Lords. Abolish these grasping and unelected Lords who treat the people and democracy with contempt and and make them submit themselves to election. How could they place their own interests above democracy? How dare they ignore the will of the people!Colleen Morrisonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-40373788863529059792011-06-18T10:08:42.488+01:002011-06-18T10:08:42.488+01:00Why would we expect anything less? We pretend to b...Why would we expect anything less? We pretend to be a democracy but that was taken away from us 15 or more years ago. We, the voters must take some of the blame for this for letting it happen. <br />It is ironic that we send our young men to their deaths in far off deserts on the pretense that we are "spreading democracy". <br />They are all out of touch, democracy has to be fought for and won by the people who want it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-42497033335275253332011-06-18T09:37:26.500+01:002011-06-18T09:37:26.500+01:00I think its time we had a published list of all th...I think its time we had a published list of all those in the Lords and Commons who draw an EU Pension or have EU Interest. Even the BBCs head Lord Patton (who was given the shove as Tory MP candidate by his voters) Has a conflict of interest as he also draws an EU pension so we can guarantee that we will not get an unbiased news regarding the EU.We need a true Democracy not this cancer in our Government. As all 3 main parties are all but one, except in name lets boot them out and vote for real people who have proper jobs VOTE UKIP and get a real change.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com