tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post7220735202745845774..comments2024-01-16T08:40:53.682+00:00Comments on <a href="http://www.openeurope.org.uk">Open Europe</a>: European Council draft conclusions: have Merkel's 'reform contracts' made a comeback?OEhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00556463374230498875noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-3133386858455050072013-10-22T17:33:42.448+01:002013-10-22T17:33:42.448+01:00Just like the EU - to write the minutes of decisio...Just like the EU - to write the minutes of decisions still to be taken - or rejected! <br /><br />christina speightnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-52187776461969941582013-10-22T14:13:30.278+01:002013-10-22T14:13:30.278+01:00jon livesey -
I am about to submit a comment here...jon livesey -<br /><br />I am about to submit a comment here:<br /><br />http://www.openeuropeblog.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/not-what-london-or-madrid-want-to-hear.html<br /><br />about your previous post on the fiscal position of an independent Scotland.Denis Coopernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-29651855089825156342013-10-22T14:11:06.803+01:002013-10-22T14:11:06.803+01:00Once again, it should be clearly understood that a...Once again, it should be clearly understood that any EU treaty change which on paper "applies" only to the eurozone states, or more generally to member states other than the UK, will not trigger a UK referendum under Hague's so-called "referendum lock" law, which would be better described as a "referendum block".<br /><br />So just as with the EU treaty change that Cameron gifted to Merkel on March 25th 2011 to provide her with a sound legal basis for the ESM, Cameron could simply give her whatever she wanted, and get it approved by Parliament, and there would be no legal requirement for the British people to be given the opportunity to express their view on what he had agreed.Denis Coopernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-57274349555269819852013-10-22T14:08:13.450+01:002013-10-22T14:08:13.450+01:00I think what it is actually saying is that without...I think what it is actually saying is that without the UK the eussr has no definitive defence capabilities, and not surprisingly the eussr would be severely weakened by our leaving it. Nothing new really just another poor reason to expect us to stay in it. We are part of NATO which is far more important than any self serving ideas of unelected commissioners.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-68895818855966649732013-10-22T14:02:18.564+01:002013-10-22T14:02:18.564+01:00Well, yes. Germany will insist on having a say in ...Well, yes. Germany will insist on having a say in the government of other southern states, including France. Where Hitler failed, the EU might succeed.Rollohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18255460090580758354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-22234712740740211812013-10-22T13:48:48.355+01:002013-10-22T13:48:48.355+01:00No self-respecting government would ever sign such...No self-respecting government would ever sign such a contract. Any prime minister who signed it would be branded a Quisling. And no government who did sign it would ever honor it. The hubris of the euro elite is that they can produce pieces of paper that MUST be honored by sovereign nations. There is still no enforcement mechanism and there never will be. The EU is a failed institution. It is trying to negate economic law, specifically the tragedy of the commons. The euro is a commonly held currency that is being plundered to extinction. Time for Germany to quit its pipe dreams of lording over sovereign nations and simply mind its own business and set a good example. THAT is real leadership.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-27765600854733447372013-10-21T21:12:39.380+01:002013-10-21T21:12:39.380+01:00This is a bit off-topic, but ISIS Europe just rele...This is a bit off-topic, but ISIS Europe just released a paper entitled "The consequences of a British exit from the EU and CSDP: An analytical timeline".<br /><br />It purports to analyse the consequences for the UK and the EU of a British exit in defence matters, but in fact it simply states its conclusions as fact with no supporting evidence.<br /><br />And the "conclusions" are what you would expect. Upon British exit the EU would consolidate its current defence integration further - "current", really? - and become stronger, while the UK outside the EU would lose influence and "its standing in World politics". Wow, just like that.<br /><br />Ironically, the paper spends a lot of time insisting that the UK always acts in its own self-interest where defence is concerned anyway, and does not note how often the UK - and France - have actually *replaced* the EU in the many cases where the EU simply could not agree what to do - Balkans, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc.<br /><br />It's a sad little paper, but what gets my attention is that in 2013 there are people who still think that this sort of "assume your conclusion" stuff is enough of a "contribution" to the European debate to be worth publishing, with accompanying Press fanfare.<br /><br />http://www.isis-europe.eu/sites/default/files/publications-downloads/isis_europe_-_nato_watch_occasional_paper_january_2013.pdfjon liveseynoreply@blogger.com