tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post2564876679350819289..comments2024-01-16T08:40:53.682+00:00Comments on <a href="http://www.openeurope.org.uk">Open Europe</a>: Is Hammond the most eurosceptic Tory Foreign Secretary to date?OEhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00556463374230498875noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-3353304665701391062014-07-16T08:58:15.033+01:002014-07-16T08:58:15.033+01:00Doesn't make any difference the foreign secret...Doesn't make any difference the foreign secretary doesn't have any clout with the eussr anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-1034343004707289752014-07-16T01:39:23.294+01:002014-07-16T01:39:23.294+01:00There is no such thing as a Tory Eurosceptic.
Eit...There is no such thing as a Tory Eurosceptic.<br /><br />Either they join UKIP or they are pro-EUSSR.<br /><br />End of story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-78424871319229927822014-07-15T14:00:08.817+01:002014-07-15T14:00:08.817+01:00He may be being primed to take that role, and team...He may be being primed to take that role, and team up with the other actors Redwood,Carswell,Hannan and the rest, who all talk a good eurosceptic line but have very strict comfort zones they will not part from. The first being the unthinkable of not being a tory/conservative with all the faux gravitas that they think comes with it. Unfortunately they don't see Cameron laughing at them, and they cannot allow themselves to listen to us, as voters after all, what do we know?Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07132057803097163797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-22985280524479234192014-07-15T12:25:10.606+01:002014-07-15T12:25:10.606+01:00Hague provided the Tory party with a "eurosce...Hague provided the Tory party with a "eurosceptic" façade to hide the truth that it has long been and still is a eurofederalist party.<br /><br />But now that façade is worn out and riddled with too many holes through which increasing numbers of voters can see the reality that lies behind it; so it is being replaced with a new façade, a chap called Philip Hammond who is relatively little known but who by the accounts of the Tory supporting press is even more of a fierce "eurosceptic" than Hague was previously thought to be. <br /><br />You see, back in May 2013 Hammond followed Gove by saying that if the EU didn't change then he would be prepared to leave it:<br /><br />http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22500121<br /><br />But adding of course that first of all Cameron should be given the chance to change it and bring back powers, which would make it acceptable.<br /><br />"I believe that we have to negotiate a better solution that works better for Britain if we are going to stay in and play a part in the European Union in the future, but let me be absolutely clear: I think it is defeatist to sort of say we want to leave the European Union.<br /><br />"We should say no, this is a club that we are members of, and before we talk about leaving it, first of all we're going to try and change the rules and change the way it works and change the objectives that it has in order to make it something that works for Britain."<br /><br />And if people believe that would be possible then they will believe anything.<br />Denis Coopernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-57460937317774481222014-07-15T12:15:44.439+01:002014-07-15T12:15:44.439+01:00If Cameron is the Wayne Rooney of Europe, (He come...If Cameron is the Wayne Rooney of Europe, (He comes; he shoots; he misses; he goes home) then who is Hammond? Part of the same team?Rollohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18255460090580758354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-75913434055032641512014-07-15T11:26:48.118+01:002014-07-15T11:26:48.118+01:00Mr. Hammond still has a long way to go though in h...<br />Mr. Hammond still has a long way to go though in his understanding of the animal he is dealing with. To stretch his own 'club' analogy, he doesn't seem to acknowledge that most of the members of this club want to join together to form one giant club whereas the population of the UK want to operate on there own as part of a league. Oh and the EU Club is playing football whilst the UK wants to play cricket.<br /><br />OK, I know, as an analogy extension it's a bit thin but then so is expectation that merely having a more EU sceptical UK foreign minister is going to make the EU Commissioners and the leaders of the other EU states sit up and say: "wow, this man talks so much sense that we're going to change the way the EU works altogether and agree a whole new treaty that will make Mr. Hammond and his fellow, ever so sensible Brits, stay with us in Euroland and be happy."<br /><br />Fantasy land.<br />Average Englishmannoreply@blogger.com