tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post5879709482456080307..comments2024-01-16T08:40:53.682+00:00Comments on <a href="http://www.openeurope.org.uk">Open Europe</a>: German parties scramble as third Greek bailout drops into the election campaignOEhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00556463374230498875noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-56127586125905804572013-08-27T09:41:59.453+01:002013-08-27T09:41:59.453+01:00Did anyone believe that the divergence between the...Did anyone believe that the divergence between the German economy and economies in the South of the Eurozone were miraculously going to happen? And that the weaker economies were suddenly going to show massive surpluses and be able to repay debt?<br />The days of miracles are gone.Rollohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18255460090580758354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-71091715371273430832013-08-23T11:23:35.533+01:002013-08-23T11:23:35.533+01:00@Jon Livesey,
from one of your links:
""...@Jon Livesey,<br /><br />from one of your links:<br />""The bailouts haven't cost German taxpayers a penny," he insisted. "The belief that this money is gone and will never come back is wrong. These are loans that must be paid back." "<br /><br />Anglo Saxon press has been constantly saying that the money is only lent and will be paid back.<br />Anglo Saxon press has been constantly saying that the German people have been tricked by their press and their leaders into believing that the money is not lent but has been given away. That the lending is profitable... <br /><br />Now, the Anglo Saxon press has changed their tune (a complete turnaround of their views) into the complete opposite of the above.<br /><br />Now the message in the Anglo Saxon press is that the lent money will not be paid back.<br />Now the message in the Anglo Saxon press is that the German people have been tricked by their press and their leaders into believing that the money was only lent and would be paid back.<br /><br />That seems like Orwellian rewriting of history to me.Jespernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-12383630195859110712013-08-22T21:08:32.148+01:002013-08-22T21:08:32.148+01:00Here are some URL you can look at to see what the ...Here are some URL you can look at to see what the Anglo-Saxon Press have been saying.<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/27/business/global/germany-agrees-to-increasing-bailout-money-for-euro-zone-nations.html<br /><br />http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/9166220/Eurozone-debt-crisis-Germany-must-let-bailout-fund-grow.html<br /><br />http://www.theguardian.com/business/2011/jul/12/greek-bailout-to-cost-doublejon liveseynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-28315264511557389832013-08-22T21:03:20.970+01:002013-08-22T21:03:20.970+01:00Jesper: I'm really unclear what you are going ...Jesper: I'm really unclear what you are going on about. Every publication I regularly read has been saying for the past five years that the only alternatives for the eurozone are to let some of the peripheral countries leave, or adopt a debt union in some form.<br /><br />If you could read that and conclude that they were saying a debt union would cost Germany nothing I would really doubt your reading comprehension skills.<br /><br />the turnaround here hasn't been in the Anglo-Saxon press at all. Their message has been consistent all along. If Greece is not to leave the eurozone, someone has to pay, and that someone is Greater Germany.<br /><br />The only turnaround has been by German politicians, who are very belatedly starting to come clean with the German voter, and are just beginning to admit that it will cost a lot of German money to keep the eurozone together.jon liveseynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-33607339065123798742013-08-22T14:40:50.509+01:002013-08-22T14:40:50.509+01:00I'm getting the impression that it is mostly t...I'm getting the impression that it is mostly the Anglo-Saxon press that is being corrected now.<br /><br />For months and years there has been the constant message from the Anglo Saxon press that the bailouts hasn't cost Germany anything. At the same time the same Anglo Saxon press has been claiming that German press have been lying to the German people and that German people incorrectly believed that the bailouts cost the Germany a lot of money.<br /><br />The Anglo Saxon press has now done a turnaround and rewriting of history that is so Orwellian that it is almost unbelievable. Facts haven't changed but opinions of some commentators have most certainly changed.Jespernoreply@blogger.com