tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post6241484616464735582..comments2024-01-16T08:40:53.682+00:00Comments on <a href="http://www.openeurope.org.uk">Open Europe</a>: Of all the reactions from Europe, there is one that is infinitely more important than all others…OEhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00556463374230498875noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-84762848350624902672013-01-25T01:55:27.008+00:002013-01-25T01:55:27.008+00:00Dahrendorf's assessment in 1979 is not relevan...Dahrendorf's assessment in 1979 is not relevant or accurate now.<br /><br />A French newspaper has already held such a poll and I am delighted to say that 70% want us to leave.<br /><br />I am with Groucho Marx on this one - I would not want to join a club that would have me as a member, and I could not care less whether we leave or they throw us out.<br /><br />As long as it is soon.<br /><br />And as for Mr, Pichinini, yes you are right - we do believe we can go it alone - that is outside the stultifying grip of the EU but in the free world. Oddly enough, we did it rather successfully for 1000 years until 1973, and can do it again any time. Happily, joyfully.<br /><br /><br />IDRIS FRANCISnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-30619274685281498602013-01-24T16:03:16.177+00:002013-01-24T16:03:16.177+00:00As Andrew Smith says what the politicians say is l...As Andrew Smith says what the politicians say is largely wasted breath! We've heard from politicians and each time there's a referendum anywhere in the EU - Ireland (repeatedly) France, and The Netherlands the vote has been against the EU but the vote has been circumvented or ignored. [Only in Norway do the people really rule) THAT is why we must be out, so that the British can be the leader of a move to make the PEOPLE of Europe count.<br /><br />And Carlo Piccinini - fine by me! But if the politicians organise it, the politicians will organise the result as usual. christina speightnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-91326236140129776492013-01-24T15:23:13.393+00:002013-01-24T15:23:13.393+00:00I think that the question of referendum is wrongly...I think that the question of referendum is wrongly formulated.<br /><br />EU history shows that UK has never been very keen to be part of the Europe project. Two among other known examples: it came onboard later, and still uses the pound. UK thinks that it can do without EU and assumes (naively and arrogantly) that it can co along withaout the EU while the entire European project will collapse without its mambership. <br /><br />So a referendum should be called in the other 26 countries and ask the European Citizens:<br /><br />Do we, European Citizens, want the UK to remain part of the EU: Yes or No? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06636378480342583180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-62009158126118376182013-01-24T14:50:37.754+00:002013-01-24T14:50:37.754+00:00Sorry to be conventional, and very non-EU but I wo...Sorry to be conventional, and very non-EU but I would have thought the most important reaction would be those of the public.<br /><br />The whole speech was dedicated to protecting the Conservative votes at the next GE to try to limit the carnage they will suffer.Andrew Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17671242562855245457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-5341361058814787482013-01-24T11:54:58.713+00:002013-01-24T11:54:58.713+00:00Merkel was half right: The EU needs us to keep sub...Merkel was half right: The EU needs us to keep subsidising them; but we do not need them. We have a trade deficit of £4billion per month with the EU, which we could well do without, but they could not.<br />And the acquis communautaire ratchet will ensure that for all his bull, Cameron will repatriate nothing of any substance: tell me one Acquis Communautaire that has been reversed?<br />This speech is only about politics. Cameron knows he will lose the next election unless he promises an IN OUT referendum; but anyone who puts any credibility in Cast Iron Pledge Cameron is in for a repeat disappointment.Rollohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18255460090580758354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36227136.post-52736228338159652152013-01-23T13:56:01.368+00:002013-01-23T13:56:01.368+00:00Here is how Lord Dahrendorf would have reacted:
h...Here is how Lord Dahrendorf would have reacted:<br /><br />http://blog.openeuropeberlin.de/2013/01/ralf-dahrendorf-in-defense-of-europe-la.html<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09969518135222788907noreply@blogger.com