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| Could another Rees-Mogg Judicial Review lead to a referendum? |
Update 17:00:
The Spectator Coffee House blog is reporting the Conservative Chief Whip may be preparing MPs for a decision to stay out of the EAW. However the line from Number 10 is that they are still "in principle seeking to opt back in."
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Before 1 December, MPs will vote on whether to accept the Coalition's decision to opt back in to around 35 EU Crime and Policing laws and, for the first time, accept the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice - or stay out completely. As we have written before, the choice is a straight one between "more or less EU control over UK crime and policing."
But this flagship Coalition EU policy may fly in the face of another - the European Union (Referendum) Act 2011 - which was supposed to give the British people the final say on the transfer of powers to the EU. So why are we not going to see a referendum? Well as this decision was already in the pipeline, it was excluded when the Government drafted its legislation. However, other areas such as participation in the European Public Prosecutor would definitely require a referendum.
This division will now be tested in the Courts courtesy of a judicial review by Jacob Rees-Mogg MP and UKIP treasurer Stuart Wheeler who believe that not only does the decision to opt-in to the European Arrest Warrant require a referendum, but the EAW also contravenes Magna Carta and Habeas Corpus. [It is worth remembering that Rees-Mogg's father and Stuart Wheeler have both previously brought legal actions against ceding of power to the EU]. As a legal opinion, commissioned by the Freedom Association, points out there are a number of serious problems including:
“With regard to the question of whether the UK’s opt-out from the jurisdiction of the European Public Prosecutor’s Office (EPPO) will be rendered ineffective owing to the ability of the EPPO to initiate the issue of an EAW and secure its execution in the UK, it is quite clear that it would."It's unlikely that the Courts will side with the appeal, but in any case, it'll be interesting to follow what it has to say about it.
1. Signing up to a club that of which almost half of the members have 3rd world legal standards is simply asking for trouble.
ReplyDeleteAs long as it will concerns Johny Foreigners, Vlady Bulgarian, drugtraffickers and alike not many people will care.
But get a nice middle class Anglo Saxon deported for some crap charge, end up in a Greek jail and the party will start via media attention.
Simply way too many EU countries are simply so far backward that there is not a proper organisational platform to start with this stuff.
2. The referendum law is a political tool much more than that it is a legal one. Hiding behind technicalities might be possible from a legal perspective from a electoral/political pov it is simply crap. Especially when there is already a lot of doubt about the governments credibility over the EU issue in general.
Would probably be wise for Cameron to propose it anyway. Looks like a thing without much downside nationally. If the other parties oppose it let them take the flak for that.
3. Signing up for more things before you can reneg (in which you want to reduce EU powers) simply will look crap.
It would be a lot better if Cameron had thrown the political turd to Spain for instance.
4. Looks like the Euro crisis is bound to turn up again. An ideal opportunity for some moves. For instance let the French explain to the markets that a Brexit has no Euro consequences. Or let Merky state that Germany will keep backing serial budget offenders even if markets get nervous about a Brexit.
5. This case will very likely get a lot of media attention. Simply see my remarks under 2 and 3 Cameron negative.
The UK should not sign up to EUSSR arrest warrants, etc. FULL STOP.
ReplyDeleteI took the trouble to take this matter up with my MP at a recent 'surgery' meeting and I am not convinced that he understood the difference between the Arrest Warrant et al and the standard extradition treaties. He is a member of the cabinet so I do not expect much but he was either confused or trying to fob me off with a duff explanation as to why the whole thing is such as good idea. Either way, his response did him no credit.
On one hand Dave and his team were recently blathering on about the anniversary of the signing of the Magna Carta and how wonderful this was for democracy and the rule of law, whilst at the same time they were planning to effectively do away with Habeas Corpus for anyone accused of a crime by a foreign government within the EUSSR. Bonkers....as usual. I hope that the remaining sane back benchers who are giving Dave a hard time on this one at the moment achieve their aims to kill off these opt backs.
However, the best way forward is still for the UK to leave the EUSSR altogether and Dave will come to agree with me yet.....when the Conservatives bomb at the Rochester by-election shortly.
They opened up the borders and allowed people the freedom of movement and surprise surprise they discovered that criminals, terrorists, people and drug traffickers take advantage of it.
ReplyDeleteSo how do we combat their initial freedom of movement idiocy? I know we will give ourselves the power to whisk people away to the state-let of the accuser on a signature of someone who cannot refuse to sign.
Talk about putting the cart before the horse. They must first harmonise laws, policing, and the judicial process and have common standards of prison welfare and probation services, the whole works before they allow people to be abducted in a draconian manner.
They created their Euro without the fiscal governance required for a currency and look what happened there, and they are doing the same with justice. Lets be honest, when it comes to the people vs. the dream the dream always comes first and always will.
Blair's firsc Commons defeat, by one vote, was when MPs refused to allow 90 days detention (and did so despite wholly improper lobbying by Acpo and senior officers)
ReplyDeleteUnder the EAW Habeas Corpus, unknown on the Continent, does not exist and large numbers of suspects are (a) routinely locked up for months or even years without charge or trial and (b)offered earlier release if they plead guilty than if they plead not guilty and are eventually aquitted.
Under the EAW, our Goverment could bypass the above Commons refusal by getting a stooge magistrate to issue a warrant against someone out lot don't like, and have him locked up abroad without charge or trial.
Are they quite mad?
WHY MUST BRITAIN REPUDIATE THE EUROPEAN ARREST WARRANT?
ReplyDeleteby Torquil Dick-Erikson © 2014
NINE reasons why (reasons 1 - 3)
1. The EAW is unjust and oppressive, and tramples on our historic rights and freedoms
Habeas Corpus presupposes that any order to arrest a person must be based on evidence of a prima facie case to answer that has already been collected by the authorities. This requirement is negated by the EAW, which forbids UK courts from asking to see evidence collected by the requesting state. The reality is that under the Napoleonic-inquisitorial systems of criminal justice used on the continent, suspects are arrested on the basis of mere clues, and most of the investigation to seek evidence is conducted with the suspects under lock and key. This can last many months, and there is no right to any public hearing during this time. This cannot happen under British procedures, where Habeas Corpus ensures that within hours of arrest, a suspect must be brought into an open court hearing and there charged, with evidence already available to be shewn.
2. It is based on a false conception – that the European Convention on Human Rights gives equivalent protection to our rights in all EU countries.
Neither the govt nor even, to my knowledge, the legal profession has conducted any systematic research into continental criminal law systems. They all appear to rely on the fact that all EU states are signed up to the ECHR, and this is supposed to guarantee the fairness of their systems and their worthiness of recognition by our own. It is (presumably) supposed that the matter of evidence need not be examined by a British court, because the foreign court can be relied on to deal with it adequately and fairly.
The trouble with this is that the ECHR is vague and woolly in its wording, and totally inadequate when compared to the safeguards provided by our own Common Law system. For example, article 6 says a prisoner has a “right to a public hearing before an impartial tribunal in a reasonable time”. But it does not say what is “reasonable”. This can be as long as a piece of string. For us it is hours after arrest. In Italy, for example, and in the EU’s Corpus Juris proposal for a single criminal code for all Europe, it can be up to six months, extensible. During this time there is no right to a public hearing. The time is used by the investigators to interrogate the suspect in prison, and to try to build a case against him.
3. It will give the EU the key power of statehood – arbitrary physical coercion over our bodies
Only a State has the right to arrest someone and put them in prison, depriving them of their liberty. If anybody else does it, it is a kidnap, and kidnappers are common criminals. By giving the EU this power – which is henceforth to be submitted to the jurisdiction of the ECJ and the enforcement powers of the Commission, so placed quite beyond the reach of our Parliament – we will effectively be granting it Statehood.
By granting the EU the power to have people arrested in Britain on no evidence, we grant them the power to exercise physical coercion over us quite arbitrarily. The real reasons for arresting a person may be quite different from the ones ostensibly stated – ie the charges can be trumped up. Their purpose could be political.
WHY REPUDIATE THE EAW?
ReplyDeleteBY T.D.Erikson
NINE REASONS WHY (reason 4)
4. The European Public Prosecutor will be able to use it against us (despite our opt-out)
The idea of “mutual recognition” by EU states of one another’s legal systems was originally put forward at Tampere in 1999 by Jack Straw as an alternative to the Corpus Juris proposal for a single system of criminal justice imposed on all (which he realised would be immediately unacceptable to the British people). The EAW is the first fruit of this idea. However the very first mention of a “European Warrant for Arrest” is actually in Corpus Juris itself (see below). The Corpus Juris project was first unveiled by the Commission at a seminar I attended in Spain in April 1997.
What seems to have escaped notice in Britain is that the EAW is not a permanent alternative to Corpus Juris, it is a stepping stone towards it. The centrepiece of Corpus Juris is the establishment of the European Public Prosecutor (EPP). Corpus Juris is the rule-book that defines his tasks and his powers. At least nine EU states are going ahead anyway with the EPP, under enhanced cooperation, though the UK has opted out.
However, our opt-out can be, and doubtless will be, sidestepped as have some other opt-outs in the past. Article 24.1.b of Corpus Juris (original edition, 1997) provides that “a European Warrant for Arrest, issued on the instructions of the EPP by a national judge… is valid across the whole territory…”. Obviously, since Britain has opted out of the EPP proposal, the EPP will not be able to instruct a British judge to issue an EAW. But he can order, say, a Belgian judge to issue one against a person in the UK. Unless we repudiate the EAW now, the British police will receive the EAW from Belgium, and will simply have to execute it, with no questions asked. The person will be trussed up and shipped over to Belgium, where he will await the pleasure of the Belgian judge, who will doubtless hand him over to the EPP, and there he will languish, under lock and key for up to six months, extensible by three months at a time (Corpus Juris, art. 20.3.g), and with no right to any public hearing during all this time.
Our own lawyers may well opine that “this would be an illegitimate use of the EAW”, but unless we repudiate the EAW now, the entire matter will be subject to the jurisdiction of the ECJ, so out of our hands. And as we know, the ECJ’s mission statement says its decisions must always further the aim of “ever-closer union”…
It is not yet known who will have power to appoint the EPP, but it is highly likely that the unelected Commission, which holds the monopoly of legislative proposals in the EU, will have a say. Doubtless there will be some statement in the legislation to say that the EPP “must be impartial and independent” but he will surely feel beholden to whoever it was who selected him, and who will doubtless have a say in his re-selection when his term comes to an end. In any case the whole matter will be beyond the reach of our Parliament.
WHY REPUDIATE THE EAW?
ReplyDeleteBY T.D.ERIKSON
NINE REASONS WHY (reason 5)
5. Its supposed advantages are non-existent for Britain
It is said by its apologists that the EAW is good for Britain because it enables us to obtain the speedy extradition of our own criminals who have taken refuge in other EU countries (and by the way, if we controlled our own borders this would not be so easy for them). Now our own police and crown prosecution service should never request the arrest of someone (whether inside or outside Britain) unless they have already collected enough prima facie evidence against him. They do this anyway (although they appear not to have bothered in the recent case against the parents of the child Ashya King), and they did it before the EAW – they would send an extradition request with an indication of the evidence against the suspect. They would continue to do it after the EAW was repudiated and we reverted to the previous arrangements. Our own procedures would not change. The difference would be that the foreign prosecutors requesting us to extradite someone would also have to provide evidence against the wanted person. At present they can have people extradited on a mere whim, or a hunch, or a “feeling” that the person in question is guilty, they do not need to shew any hard evidence.
The subtext of what the apologists for the EAW are saying is actually that, unless we continue to allow the foreign authorities to haul over anybody they fancy, providing no evidence, then they will retaliate, and put up all sorts of difficulties when we request an extradition from them. Even though our extradition requests are furnished with serious evidence. If this is really how they would behave, then they would be behaving in a petty and spiteful manner, and their behaviour would amount to blackmail. The British response to any such behaviour should surely be robust.
WHY REPUDIATE THE EAW?
ReplyDeleteBY T.D.ERIKSON
NINE REASONS WHY (reason 6)
6. Rejecting the EAW will have good political traction with the public
It is said that arrests and extraditions only affect a tiny minority of the public, so people are not too concerned about it. It would thereby not be worth investing political capital in this matter. As long as we have confidence in the justice system under which we live, so that only real criminals are badly affected, this consideration may well be true.
However, one of the reasons to be proud to be British, is that British people actually do care when they see an innocent person wrongfully locked up. We do not just shrug and say “Well, that’s tough, but that is how the cookie crumbles”. On the whole we tend to get indignant, and we say “That is not how the cookie should crumble, and if it does, we damn well need to change it.” Two hundred years ago, the English poet William Blake summed up the national feeling when he wrote, “A robin redbreast in a cage, Puts all heaven in a rage”. British people know, in their bones, that freedom from arbitrary arrest and wrongful imprisonment is important. Indeed it is important enough for past generations to have fought wars and laid down their lives to prevent it happening to us in our own country. Freedom and fairness are the values inscribed on our banner, in our laws, and in our hearts. We may be a “nation of shopkeepers” and we do realise the importance of economics, but we also cherish higher values than money (and indeed without freedom economics languishes).
At present people in Britain are accustomed to enjoying personal freedom under the safeguards of British law such as Habeas Corpus and Trial by Jury, as much as they are accustomed to breathing air without having to pay for it. Some are perturbed at some of the cases thrown up by the EAW, but overall they have accepted – so far – the bland reassurances by the politicos regarding the ECHR (“you know the Convention was drawn up largely by British lawyers…”), and by the unspoken assumption that the other EU countries are politically democratic and so surely must have fair and democratic criminal law systems too, even though not quite as scrupulously applied as our own. So they do not feel immediately threatened. They are like people lying on a beach facing the land and not seeing the tsunami wave rushing in from the ocean to drown them all. We just need to give them the facts, ie tell them to look over their shoulders towards the sea. When they see the tidal wave coming, they will react, just as they did in 1940.
WHY REPUDIATE THE EAW?
ReplyDeleteBY T.D.ERIKSON
NINE REASONS WHY (reasons 7 - 9)
7. Repudiating it will not require the government to breach the Treaty, so no renegotiation is needed.
It seems to be insufficiently appreciated that this is an open goal. Under Lisbon, our government and Parliament were entirely at liberty to exercise the block opt-out from the 130 Justice and Home Affairs measures listed. They have done that, despite the shrill protests from Commissioner Reding. And now it is entirely up to us to choose freely which measures to opt back into, or not. No negotiation is needed. No permission or agreement from any EU body nor any other EU state is required. Opting back in is an entirely voluntary act.
8. Not to repudiate it will make a mockery of Cameron’s stated aim to “claw back powers from the EU”
In view of the above, the government’s stated aim to opt back into 35 of the JHA measures, including the EAW, makes a mockery of Cameron’s other stated aim to “claw back powers from the EU”.
Especially since the EAW is the ace of trumps, it is the key state power trumping all others, it will grant de facto statehood to the EU.
9. Not to repudiate it will make a mockery of the Magna Carta celebrations currently planned by the govt.
800 years ago, England made a major contribution to human civilisation, by beginning a process of limiting the power of the State, putting constraints on the power of the king. There is a general awareness in Britain today, and in the English-speaking world that shares our traditions, that in 1215 we did something good and important, and worth celebrating.
But we must also realise that at the same time, in continental Europe the Pope was setting up the machinery of the Inquisition, which vastly extended the power of the State over the individual. Only England to a fair extent escaped the ravages of the Inquisition during the centuries that followed. The EAW, and then Corpus Juris, by submitting us to the writ of continental prosecutors and judges, and of the EPP himself, will bring us under the sway of a Europe that uses the Napoleonic-inquisitorial method. Thus we shall be terminating 800 years of our own distinctive legal history, where the law has also been a shield for the individual against the otherwise overweening power of the State, instead of merely a weapon for the ruler to impose his will on the people.